The Aftermath: A RHOA S17 EP9 and RHORI S1 EP10 Recap

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0:00 - Intro

0:30 - Picking Up the Peaches

4:30 - Angel Angela

5:15 - Shamea's Concerns

6:30 - Kelli and Phaedra Share a Heart to Heart

8:19 - Pinky's Fashion Baby

9:40 - The Great Divide

10:30 - A $70,000 Smile

11:08 - Drew's Team Meeting

13:02 - Another Dinner

15:50 - K. Michelle is a Flop

16:40 - New Housewife Egos

18:19 - Grab a Rhodie

18:54 - The Scary One Appears

23:48 - Alicia's Family Stays Ready

25:27 - Rulla Does a Front Flip

26:13 - To Dolores' House We Go

26:58 - Kelsey Has No Backbone 

30:07 - Rosie's Family Beach Fun

31:50 - Ashley Hates Audrey's 

33:30 - Liz Omits the Truth from Rulla

34:20 - Liz Meets Up With Jo Ellen 

38:06 - Outro

Transcript

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Hi everyone and welcome back to Friends of the Show. I am Kem X and I'm here with my best friend Austin today, and we're gonna go over the Real Housewives of Atlanta, season 17 now, episode 9, picking up the Peaches and Real Housewives of Rhoda Island, episode 10. It is also called Fool's Rush In, and it's gonna be a great time today. We've had a lot go on in these two episodes. We sure did. What uh two hours of television we were given. Starting out, we pick up right from Portia and Kelly's to be continued. They were fighting. Portia was dressed like Ken Kenya when she dressed like Phaedra. It's a whole thing. The only thing she was missing is the tape on booty cheeks. And they escort Kelly into uh some room in Phaedra's giant house. It looked like it might have been a nursery, but then I was like, you don't have a baby. Uh-huh. I think your youngest is like 12. Yes. So I'm not sure where she was. Why is there a changing table? And she had nice couches in every room, is something I noticed. She has a very nice house. I like that house, Phaedra. I would take that. Yeah. To be quite honest with you, I am all the way with Portia on this one because you put a glass in my face. And I am gonna clap at you. You're lucky. Old school Portia would have pulled you by the hair and dragged you across the ground. She would have grabbed the glass and smashed it in your face. She ran up on a woman in an alleyway once. My favorite thing is how quickly they broke this fight up, though, because they know where Portia will go. Everyone got involved except for K. You saw bodyguards, they got them separated quick. Phaedra said, Do I need to play the flute again? As Portia's yelling, we all know that married man you slept with, that pastor. We hear Angela go, Who is he? was my favorite thing. And they cut to Angela's confessional. She's like, I really don't know who he is. And I'm like, Thank you, Angela. You're doing the Lord's work. The Lord's work on this show. And us, and not to cut ahead, but at the end of the episode, still doing the Lord's work. Blessing us. And then I don't know. I don't know what's going on with Kelly. Why? Because I completely agreed with Portia. Like, Kelly, you involved yourself in that. That was between Kay and Portia. You needed a moment. I think that Kelly is searching for her moment. I think she knows she gets it when she has screen time with Portia. Because what I noticed over the episode is how researched Kelly is. She was quoting things that she was not there for. She has seen this show and seen it too many times because she is bringing back the past. She said, two hundred and sixty-five days. And I said, Oh, that was like 10 years ago. Porsche said that. I was like, that was Porsche's first season. Yeah. Season five. She says. This is season 17. Season 17. She's here. Damn Kelly. And she's a newbie, really. She's a fan. Because she was last year, it was brand new, right? Mm-hmm. So yeah, you're a fan. You're fanning out, I think, trying to get your moment with Porsche. So inexcusable. And we had two flashbacks to Nene in this episode with the 265 days and later with the friendship contract. Shout out Nene in this episode. I was like, they're not editing around her anymore, which makes me very happy. There was a period where they just didn't even acknowledge she was ever on this show. I think that it gives us hope that maybe one day she can come back. Please, bravo. They'd have to pay her so much, though, and I don't think that they can afford her. But they should, is the problem. Like, you should pay her. You paid Bethany Frankel to come back like $10 million this season. You can get Nene. Nobody likes Bethany Frankel either. Right. We would much rather you pay Nene. So back to the episode, Kelly, Shami, and Pinky all decide they're gonna go, and the rest of the ladies go out and finish their meal at the table. It was pretty funny that the three of them that have had the altercations all just dipped. They were like, nope, nope, nope. Phaedra made sure to give to-go plates. That was so kind. Pinky said, I like this Phaedra. But I also gotta say, when when Pinky said, I didn't even get to eat my entree, Phaedra doesn't offer the. She says he's doing to-go plates. So she sent Pinky on her way. Pinky might not have left early had Phaedra not said he's making to-go plates. That is so funny. She was like, No, you're going. You're out of here. I have a noise ordinance. I need Portia to myself now. And we all want Portia to stay, so bye-bye. And they leave. They left. That's really the end of the night. Yeah, they um just kind of close the party there. The rest of the girls kind of sit around the table. Angela kind of gets into Kay's corner a little bit and backs her up with the whole Drew thing. Yeah. Um, saying that Kay must not feel great hearing that she doesn't fit in with the group. So, Angela, not only are you doing the Lord's work, but you're looking like Mother Teresa. And I didn't even clock or even register Drew saying that, but that is meaning. It is so mean. Come on, Drew. Don't and let's be honest. Kay Michelle's a bigger reality star than Drew Sidora. And she fits in way better than Drew. Like, Drew, does anyone talk to you or do you talk to everyone? At this point, see, in this episode, I'm like, is everything I hear on the internet about Drew true? That this is all just a facade? Because this episode was worrying to me. True, Drew. Who is she? Then after the party, we cut to Shamia with her family. She breaks down a little bit about her fertility woes as she's now on like her third or fourth surrogate, it seems. And she has every right to have concern about like I've already now given birth to a child with special needs. And pre-existing health conditions. Like, I don't want to do that to another child. Let alone the the honesty in saying she may be my baby for life, and that's okay. But I'm but I can't do it with another one. Yeah. I really respected her in this moment. I'm like, Shmiya, I really have always liked you, but I I really my heart goes out to you. See, Shamia, I was like, you're kind of the annoying friend, but my heart goes out to you in this one, and I feel sad for you. And I hope that things go well. I hope that you get the baby you want and is healthy and you live a fantastic life. I don't wish you ill will. Right. I there's some you're rich as hell, Shamia. You can adopt some kids if you need to. I know it's not your genetics, and people are so weird about that, but you already have it. It's the name that counts. So And they also have genetic testing that you can do while in the womb. So there's that option too to just see what's going on during pregnancy. I think you'll be okay. I think you will be. Where do we go from there? Was it Kelly and Phaedra have a little heart to heart? Kelly tells Phaedra about her not being able to film with her daughters. And Phaedra kind of is taken aback. She didn't realize that and tells her she has some advice for her, but she doesn't tell us what the advice is yet. So I'm hoping that Phaedra helps her get her girls back on the show because it is really important to have your family a part of what you're doing. And I loved that part of Phaedra's advice was like, maybe you should just get married again. Yes. And then she brings up Jarvis to Phaedra, and Phaedra's like, okay, tell me more. She says, So was he in the room with us? Or apparently so. I didn't clock that during that moment, but I was I was like, oh my god, he was there and they didn't film him. That is so not like the Real Housewives franchise. They're not getting some sneaky shots off. He probably wouldn't sign the waiver. They could have blurred his face. They did so many times with others. Exactly. That's what I'm like, why didn't we see him? I don't like that. We need our sneaky producers back. Where's Carlos King? Ooh, bring him back. Uh-huh. I did enjoy Kelly and Phaedra actually getting to have a moment, just the two of them, though. My favorite thing with Phaedra is she always refers to Kelly's height, like she's not only one inch taller than Kelly. The first thing she did was pull her hair to the side and be like, You wearing a bra today? Yes. And she was not. Lips were out. And Phaedra loved it. You know, I likewise, girl. Kelly, I'm in your boat. I don't always wear one. And I'm like, that's Kelly. You pulled that off. Even though Phaedra said they're low-hanging fruits. She did. And her confessional. So rude. Phaedra. I wish you would breathe some of this shade. I was over there trying to see. And I was like, they're not that low. Oh, she's just a short girl. Sure. With big bazookas. With a small torso. Then where do we go? Pinky and Pinky's daughter does a little fashion shoot and Cynthia Bailey helps. Cynthia Bailey helps. And Angela brings her daughter to kind of have some fun. It was nice to see Angela reaching out to Pinky as being more of a friend than a foe. Right. And saying, you know, this is kind of on me for coming at you a little hot. Let me apologize and see what you're about. She was also just like, and we can show that we can move on. Let's bring our children together and be cute. And I gotta say, they became fast friends. Like Pinky instantly was like, I gotta tell you something about yourself. You are an instigator, but you know, it's okay because you do this XYZ. And instantly Angela goes, I thought you were gonna come for me, but I respect it because you pulled it back. And I, that's the kind of friendships that I like. I loved that. Angela was ready to go, but she said, You didn't, so we won't. Her eyebrows, even with her Botox, went up so far on her head. She was waiting the second that she said, You're an instigator. I stopped. My eyebrows went all the way up. I'm like, uh-oh. Here we go, right in front of the children. Round two with the little children here. And it wasn't. It was quite lovely to see them actually have resolution. Which we haven't been getting from a lot of any of these fights, especially here in Atlanta, because the two groups are so divided. And you know what I was thinking about this episode? The cast is not beloved, or most of them not long-term enough to have earned this big divide in the group. Like, I'm like, some of these girls are brand new to the show. There shouldn't be such a great divide. You barely know each other. Right. Like say sorry and get over it. And start working. Because you don't have any history to really fall back on to like warrant not wanting to continue being friends with someone. Absolutely. And K Michelle, I was on your side, but girl, I'm like, by this point, before the end of the episode, I'm like, she really has got to let it go. Let everything go. This is enough. I also gotta say, Angela's wig looks amazing. She looked like a mermaid. And I was I was stunned. I caught myself staring at her. She looked great this episode. After that, Kelly gets her new $70,000 smile paid for by Jarvis. Jarvis, are you Tony Starks? Because what kind of money do you have? And can I get some teeth too? I don't need them, but I'll take them. I'll take them. If you got that kind of money to spare, yeah. Help some people out. Shamia is with Kelly and they're joking. Shmia said, Wow, he's gonna pay $70,000 for your teeth. You better give him 70,000 BJs. Uh-huh. She said, These new teeth might help, and I'm like, they might be in the way. They're a little big. I don't know what she meant by that, but okay. Oh my gosh. After that's when we go to Drew's meeting with her team. Which was the stupidest thing I've ever watched. I was perplexed. I was like, why are we a part of this? For one. And then two, why do these people all hate each other so deeply? Can I tell you I have a theory? It's a conspiracy theory. And I'm not conspiracy theory brained, but except when it comes to Bravo. I feel as if maybe that they perhaps, by the way, everyone was acting on camera in this meeting. Maybe they were trying to do a backdoor pilot for Drew and her management team, which Bravo has done before. And I was like, we don't want this. No. If you're trying to make this group happen on Bravo, don't do it. Ew. You know where else they did it? Remember Beverly Hills early on? They said, Oh, here's all these people who are bartenders at Vanderpump Bar. And then some and that was just a pilot for Vanderpump Rules. Ew. I don't want to see Drew's life. I was like, Well, this is I get enough of it. This is way too produced of a scene to just be like, oh, so either they were all faking it or something behind the scenes was plotted. Well, if Drew's plotting on K Michelle, I can see her plotting on her team to get more focus on her because she needs the money. She's very um open about the to be money not being enough. But why do you need 16 people on your fucking team, Drew? Does Robert Downey Jr. have that many people? Like, who are you? The one said we need a new wig stylist because you got her wig falling off. He was kind of spitting it at some points. Yes. But yeah, that was so uncomfortable to watch for like seven minutes. It went on. When I did my second rewatch, I fast-forwarded through because it was so unnecessary to the plot. And it does come out of nowhere. Um, because then they're in the confessional talking about Drew and her team. I'm like, what is happening? We've never heard about these people. And then we also have, let me see. We've got Pinky Kay Michelle and Cynthia's dinner. And Kay, Michelle, and Portia kind of come to common ground, and Kay continues to blame her first encounter for her behavior with Portia on that Kelly incident. And it's just like, get over that one incident. That's how I felt. And I Portia said it in her confessional. I wish she would have said it in a scene where she's like, or no, she said it earlier in the episode at when she's screaming on Phaedra's staircase. I was getting my lick back and now you're mad about it. But that's what I'm like, K Michelle, you're missing the whole last season, season 16, where Kelly came in hot with Portia. Yes. You have none of that context. So you're, I get it. You're just seeing Portia go at her, but like you also don't know the history. So why are you so upset? I think she thinks she's a group being a girl's girl by being like, it's not nice the way you pulled me into that situation. But I mean, Portia was probably just looking for a mediator and didn't know who to grab because she's not friends with Kelly and doesn't know who's friends with Kelly. So she just needed a neutral party, I felt. And that was the beginning of the season. She was probably like, I don't know who I'm friends with right now. Yeah, so that was fun. I also gotta say, Kay Michelle gives Portia 48 hours to prove herself. And Portia was like, Oh, I got 48 hours. And a friendship contract. Cynthia can walked up. She was like, Not a friendship contract. Cynthia, the OG friendship contract. Oh. What television that was. That was creepy, by the way. I'll never forget how creeped out Mimi was. And that's how honestly how they should have felt in this moment because I we based on what we know on social media, Kay, you were being fake as hell. So fake. And I just want to say, just for the record, the rumors that she's stanky come from Soldier Boy, which is just incredibly funny to me because nobody cares what Soldier Boy has to say. No one knew until she nobody knew until you repeated it. Only a like small audience must have known this. And then she you know what this is called? The stry sand effect. And for anyone who doesn't know what that is, you can Google it. But it's just Barbara Streisand said, Paparazzi, don't take pictures of my house. And they had never done that before. So then they started rolling up on helicopters and took pictures of her house. And everyone was like, Well, you're the one who exposed yourself, so you strisanded yourself. I don't feel bad anymore. I was fully on your side at the beginning of the season, Miss Kay, but I already know it's not gonna last. So I'm just like, whatever. Yeah, I'm kind of over you, Kay. I thought you were gonna bring me the goods, and instead it's just lame. There's been tiny moments of the goods, but not enough to sustain the rest. And when you're such a large household name already like this, it's not looking good for you to come back for a second season. I feel like if you were nobody, like let's say how Amanda Francis came in on Beverly Hills, she's nobody, but caused a bunch of controversy, even though it was not always positive. She's still more likely to get invited back for a second season than a bigger name than K Michelle because the flop. Yeah, it's like the opposite of each other because everyone kind of hated Amanda and then was on her side. We all wanted to love Kay, but she put us off of her side. Immediately. Sorry, girl. I love you. I don't want her to not come back, but if this is what we're gonna get, then you don't and you shouldn't. And that's okay too. It's okay. Some people just gotta go back to the way things work. Do you know what was frustrating me is we are on the real housewives franchise. I'm so tired of housewives, newer housewives coming in and being like, this is not up for discussion. We are not doing this, we are not fighting, we are da da da da. And I'm like, Do you know what you signed up for? The whole show is about women bickering with each other. Uh-huh. And then the whole point is supposed to be that you can put that aside and come back together by the end. And be friends. But there's no friends here. There hasn't been friends, I feel, on any of the franchises in a very long time. They're very clicky. And not like, oh, there's only one click on each show. It's like, no, there's many clicks on each cast. And clicking for filming only. They're not talking to each other outside of filming. They're literally just like, okay, I'm on your side during these three months, don't talk to me the rest. And you can just tell. It's what Kay Michelle said. It's Survivor Island, and you need your alliances. Uh it I just missed the days of when there was friends. Me too. Thinking that right now, I'm like, think about Kim Zolziak and Nene Leaks. And Sheree with Kim. Yes. That dynamic. They went and beat the shit out of that woman multiple times. Pulled her wig. Uh choked her out. Uh-huh. And then she still was like, over it. We're friends again. Kim Zolziak was sitting there saying, Kim, we look like twins. We could be sisters. Oh. Okay. Kim, you're that's how I knew you were delusional. So this was an enjoyable episode of Atlanta. I'm not disappointed. I just am, I need their the dynamics to feel a little more real in the reality so we can get back to what is supposed to be housewives. And you know who did it and is doing it very well, the real housewives of Rhode Island. Because there's clicks, but they also all seem to have some respect for each other at the very least. Maybe not Liz after this episode with Jo Ellen, but I could see them all actually getting along. I could tell that they've all actually probably known each other before this and weren't just put together for a show, which is very refreshing, especially seeing as they're of all different age groups, right? From 30 to 50, in different backgrounds, all over. And so it's like, how do you how do you know each other? But it's Rhode Island, you're so small, so it makes sense. So the episode, this was such a good first 10 minutes of an episode. I've never seen better television. I don't know the last time we got a first 10 minutes. This juicy. This fight continues on. They arrive at the venue, and immediately Alicia can't stop crying. She's trying to find some sunglasses to cover her puffy eyes. She can't find them. Joelyn gives her hers. And as they walk into the venue, Liz is like, that took a really long time for you guys to get over. And she's like, I was giving her some sunglasses. We weren't talking about it. She'd be paranoid. Yeah. And Liz goes, fuck off. I got Liz in this episode, though. I'm like, I know where she's coming from. Yes. And it's a Jo Ellen. It's about you, not Alicia, really. And as soon as we get in there and they sit down, you can see the sick satisfaction in Liz's face that everyone is upset. I get that so much, and I hate it. She loved that she ruined the night. She said, if I'm not having a good time, none of us. And you know what I've respected? Rosie didn't let that impact her night or her husband's night. She said, Everyone else can fight. I'm gonna sit here and sing. Liz and Joelyn really get into it in this episode and become some of the most entertaining television I've ever seen. Because as they're fighting at the table, Liz decides she's gonna go have a cigarette, where Joelyn then follows her out. And said, You didn't get me a cigarette. Clearly, she's not a smoker. Illicit, oh, was I supposed to? She said, we can share. Uh-huh. Like they're not fighting. Yeah, look, that's I love that. That's friendship, though. Uh being a fight, but we're sharing that cigarette. Because I don't smoke a. I don't need a whole stick. I don't need the whole thing. Yeah. And they continue to fight. They're I I believe are they not crouched? They are. For some reason. They are sitting on the ground, basically. Uh-huh. Crouched down. Smoking. Smoking. But I get that because for some reason I crouch when I'm outside, too. Not gonna say I never have, but I'm just against a building while I'm having a little smoke. Liz being in a floor-length dress crouched on the sidewalk. And Joelan being in a tiny skirt crouched on the sidewalk. Joel and like a two-piece genie costume. Yeah. I was like, okay. I gotta tell you, Liz was killing me at this point. So they finish their sig, and as they're going back inside, they're fighting. Joel and Liz, and they're literally screaming. And Liz just keeps like being very condescending and like, oh, your feelings are hurt. Oh. As they're walking into the little theater, she's like, Oh, your feelings are hurt. I don't care. You patronizing motherfucker. Yes. And then they go sit down. And then, oh, the greatest time happens. Joelyn's claiming that Liz is one of her best friends, and Liz is like, excuse me. And she continues to like go on and on about resolve at this point. And there's not gonna be resolve here. Liz is here to fight. Liz's gloves are off, earrings are out, mask off, literally smiling in your face, saying the worst things she can to you. And I love Joel and being like, stop this. Stop it now. But apparently she goes and pulls Joelyn's hair, just a little tug, a light tug. Just as a brush. Yeah, it was an aggressive brush. And then proceeds to kick Joelan's chair about four feet away from her. Effortlessly, by the way. Like it was on wheels. And you know what? I was started to cry laughing at Alicia, be like, no. She's fully screaming in the middle of the show. This man is singing to come marching home or some shit. He was. And then Alicia's like, Joelin, no, don't react. Don't react to her. And then Joelin reacts. She gets whispered something nasty in her ear, which I want to know what was said. The fact that they didn't show us, it was probably crazy. Her face was disgusted. She had to get up and go home. She got up and she took the van, just like Doreed. I bet we're gonna hear about that next episode. But my favorite part, I guess, about this whole fight was at the end, whenever they show after Joel and skirts off, Ashley's crying. I don't know why, but she's always crying. And I love that where she was sat. Like she was like next to Rosie and someone else's friend. And like, I'm like, you're not even in the middle of the drama. Why are you crying? You're on the other side. No, or confrontation or anything, even around her, apparently. Because I would have been laughing when I saw that chair go across the room. She almost kicked her on stage. I would have been clapping. Liz, I just fell in love with you more. Yeah, you looked gorgeous this episode. I don't know if it's the evil or she was flinging her hair around. It was blowing. I was I caught myself staring at Liz a couple times. I was into it and I was like, she's perfect for this. She was born to be here. She was born to be here. Later, Alicia tells her family about the fight. They go to dinner and she tells her about the fight, and immediately they back her up. I was like, oh. I was like, so you were homeless. I mean, at this point, I don't know why Liz was so invested, but I have a feeling she's not gonna care much going forward. And I think that she's gonna realize how dumb she looks when it comes back at the reunion. Yeah. Um, and I think she'll apologize for it, but I think she's also gonna still say the butt. Oh, definitely. She's gonna always say, I was trying to protect your family, or you were never homeless in the way that we think of homelessness. But in my girl's defense, you didn't have a home. My house was taken away. You bounced couch to couch, your family agrees. Right. You was homeless then. Right. Once the family was like livid about it, I was like, okay, she was homeless. Let's just give it to her. It's that simple, really. I did love, I was just laughing. Liz was like, Oh, I've only apologized about 12 fucking times. And I'm like, because you don't mean it, which is so funny. Yeah, and when they're uh when Alicia's at dinner with her family and her confessional, she calls Liz abusive. And then she goes, It felt good. Got that off my chest. And so it's been what, like 30, 40 years apart because they've known each other since they were like six, eight years old, apparently. Yeah, I think Liz was that age when Alicia was born. And so if Alicia's in her 40s, you've known each other for 40 years. Yeah, that's crazy. So 40 years putting up with abuse, right? That uh uh wouldn't be me. Could not be me. You know who we do see, she's no longer missing in action, it's rula. She does come in and do a little front flip real quick. That's it. That's it. They're like, oh look, she's alive. And you know that scene was probably filmed months earlier, had nothing to do with this timeline. I have no idea how they're cutting Rula footage together because it was not filmed at the same time, I don't think. I don't think so either. She could I'm gonna be shocked if she showed up at the reunion. That'll be interesting, and she definitely is not being invited back. She'll probably have a mysterious illness that day, aka a panic attack. I just had such a bad headache. I'm like for a month, you need to go to the doctor. She's like, I was in the ICU almost. Almost. Almost. What's that mean? Does that mean you called your doctor and he was like, Well, if it gets worse, you're going to the hospital. Yeah. And then Liz has a little chit-chat with Kelsey. She does. She takes her to Dolores' house, and we see Dolores' dog named Dog. It was so cute. It had a little sweater. Liz kind of scared it. She did. She was getting into it. I was like, oh my god, dog. We used to see Dog on old uh seasons of Jersey. Oh, so he's a long timer. And I can't wait for the new season. So I'm still bummed Dolores won't be at the reunion for Rhode Island. Because I'm like, she had a good vibe with this group. Yeah. Especially when you see her here with Liz and Kelsey. Like, I'm like, they feel like friends. Yeah, they unpack the fight more, but it's just more unpacking of the fight. This episode kind of was like the fight, and then just unpacking the fight. And the aftermath. And Kelsey, apparently we're learning more and more. She doesn't have much of a backbone. No, she didn't stand up to Liz telling her that she thought she was in the wrong. No. But later then, when she has the unpacking with Joellen, tells her that Liz was in the wrong. Yeah. And Joanne's like, so did you say that to her? Or you just like thought it? Or she goes, No, I just that's your guys' fight. She said, After what happened at the seawall, I'm kind of scared. I get it. Liz would be scary, but like you're on the show, Kelsey. It's all being filmed, and they're gonna find out what you're saying. And then they were painting at the same time as they were talking. And I wow. Kelsey, wow. If all you did was 45 minutes to an hour, you got that shit done. You should be painting art, not hairdressing, haircutting. And then that Joel turned her painting around. She painted Kelsey, a slam pig. A literal slam pig. And then Kelsey said, That thing's got dick sucking lips. I love that she's owning it. Uh huh. I I really loved that. I liked it with the sash. I liked it in this episode. Some people don't like it. I'm like, she was the one called a slam pig. You would all not like it if she was overreacting to that. If she overreacted, you wouldn't like it. If she didn't react, you wouldn't like it. There's no win-win for her. So just let her embrace the slam pig. Yeah, and you know what else? I do like Kelsey, but ooh, this is cutting ahead a little bit. But her discussion with Billy. That's okay. We can cut to Billy. Since we're on Kelsey, that was crazy. Billy, oof, I don't know how long he's gonna wait around Kelsey for you to cut this off. But I'm kind of on Kelsey's side. If I've had a brain tumor, my health insurance is probably very expensive since I don't have a job. It's probably like at least a grand a month, I would assume. At least. And then she told him, I have this expense. I need my health insurance. And you said you don't want to pay for it. So what am I to do? I was completely on her side with that. I was just like, uh-oh, I see the feded upness with Billy already. He turned red. Yeah, he was frustrated. I'm like, I get it, but put your damn ego aside and think about it. Like it's apparently she could have gone blind. Yeah, which means it was right behind her eye. Yeah, that's terrifying. She probably had a shaved head for a little bit. And I'm like, yeah, she had a brain tumor. Let her get the damn insurance. And it's not like she's doing anything to like make him pay for it. It was almost the attitude he was approaching it with in their discussion, was like, he feels like it means there's still something. Romantic feelings, yeah. I'm like, he the man's gonna get a different girlfriend and probably still pay for it. He's rich as hell. He loves the girl. And I was fully on her side last week. I'm like, um, yeah, she kind of is should be entitled. She spent 10 years with the damn man. She was 19 when she met him. She put her entire life on pause at the wrong time when you're supposed to be figuring out who you are and getting your life together and just spent it being a part of his life. She has no concept of how to live. She has to have this aid for right now. We're lucky she's paying for the apartment. We're lucky she knows how to pay a bill. Thank god the utilities are probably included. Hopefully. Otherwise, she wouldn't have had power, like or water. Yeah. Oh, poor girl. If we come back earlier in the episode, Rosie goes to the beach with her husband and his family. Cute little beach day. I like though that she didn't fold. She said, Well, that was never in my plans directly to them. Uh-huh. And they still continue to pressure her. And then in her confessional, she's talking about how if her husband pressures her in a couple of years, that's a deal breaker, she'll consider it and not make me feel sad. Well, and it's like I didn't, I've never heard her say before this episode. She was like, He never that was a part of the agreement when we got married that I didn't think I wanted kids. Yeah, they both didn't. So it's like, yeah, she does have the right to feel the way she feels. Like, stop pressuring women. And if it's a deal breaker, then we're gonna consider it, but we're also gonna consider divorce, I guess. Um you gotta consider everything when you're considering, and I would support her in that because that I hate how women get pressured. It's like worry about your own bodies, especially when women have good bodies, and she does. She's like, I look better than ever. And I'm like, let her embrace that. She does look good. So every woman looks better in their 30s. Do not make her have a baby in her 30s. She said, even with my Botox, I ain't got nothing. Like, come on now. I was like, I'm feeling Rosie more as this season has gone on. She's definitely grown on me. At first, I thought she was gonna be really annoying. Reporter Rosie, like instigator, investigator. She also reminded me of like a valley girl for some reason. It's her high pony. Her fashions. She's not very like with it for how young she is, but you've got our respect, Rosie. Wow. Never thought we'd see the day. No. But here we are. Ashley's still crying though. So I'm actually with you at this point that if that's all she's gonna do, she doesn't need to be here. She's gotta go. Because they bring up her and Jared and Audrey's um Lisa's coming up, and she again is just pretty much like, let's get rid of this business. And I saw his point. He said he didn't want to let anyone down, and I don't think she understands what that means. He means his employees, he employees people. These people have livelihoods, they have jobs, they have things they have to pay for, and they rely on this man keeping this place open. When we first saw Audrey's, I was like, oh my god, this is a cute coffee shop. The more we see it, I'm like, they got a kitchen in there. It's huge. I counted it at least four people on staff in the one episode. Right. Like that's a bustling restaurant at that point. That's not even a coffee shop. You have to employ a lot of people. And he has every right to not want to disappoint those people. Yeah. If you don't employ more than one person, which she probably only has a damn assistant, like you probably aren't gonna understand what it means to let down an entire company full of people. It's it's gotta be sad to think about telling people who I'm no longer gonna continue my business. So it's best you look elsewhere. And she said, just uh Audrey's brings in bit uh money, just not enough. Which is so sad because it's his passion project and she's always downplaying. Uh-huh. I'm like, well, if you make that much on your damn Instagram, do some more ads. What kind of brands are associating themselves with an obsessive crier? Mascara, probably. Waterproof. Uh-huh. I don't know. I'm just like, I liked you, Ashley, but you piss me off now. You need to let your man have his passion. I'm over you, Ashley. I want you to go. So this isn't the bachelor. Take your tears and go. So then Rula and Liz unpack the fight. They unpack the fight, but Liz has every opportunity to tell her, hey, I've seen a video of your husband cheating, and she still doesn't. No one is telling her. And just tells her about this fight that she had. Still not saying anything she had to do in that fight. She's just like, and Joel and this, and Joel and that. Like, Liz, you had some actions in there too, I believe. I believe you hurled her chair across the room. Called people motherfuckers, told them to fuck off within the first five seconds of arriving. Yeah. I was dying too. Poor Lisa was just crying. She was the Ashley of this episode. Stop. She was just sobbing when they were fully physically fighting. But I mean, that's the person who can, I guess, because it all started over her. Just like, it's okay though. They're not even fighting about you anymore. They're fighting with each other. They don't like each other, Joellen and Liz. No, that's very clear when they sit down to resolve this fight. Immediately Liz comes back in with her same attitude. She did. She gives Pallet her keys. And I'm like, girl, that's a bad idea because you're just gonna come right back to that car. And that's what she does. And I'm so happy you noticed that because I did too. And I was like, You know how much they had to cut out of her waiting. Yeah. You just better hope they didn't park it far. Joel and just pulled up in my favor of that interaction was Liz getting back into her car, being like, piece of shit across the street. Because they don't resolve anything, they just continue to bicker. Joelan is like, you're my best friend. Liz said, We were never friends. And Joelan says, It's really, it hurts to hear that someone you care about doesn't care about you the same way. And I'm like, is she your girlfriend? Yeah, did you get dumped? Like, it just sounds like you were very invested, I guess. Also, when Rula and Liz are speaking, there's some hinting going on that they're like, hmm, maybe Joelan shouldn't be so worried about what Brian is up to, and she should be more worried about what she gets up to extracurricularly. Rula hints that Joelan is also a cheater, but I'm gonna pull the the whole Rula's just pulling a Porsche and she's dishing out what's being thrown at her. She is. There's no way that Joellen is cheating on that man. I don't see it. I don't see it either because they all are uh have the hots for him in this group. And she has small children, she has a job. Where does she have the time? Also, if they have like an open relationship or whatever, an understanding in their relationship, and that's their marriage. If they're swinging, they're swinging. Yeah, that ain't cheating then if they're in on it together. No, I don't I didn't believe it either, but I was like, oh. No, it's funny. Rula, wow. She will do anything but say, Maybe my husband needs to go. Maybe my husband's the problem. And you know what I loved is both of these episodes, Atlanta and Rhode Island, end almost in the exact same way. Two women go to a restaurant, scream and fight so much that one storms out, and then they get the camera crews out on the street to make sure they're filming the exits, the exits. And my favorite part with Atlanta was they filmed them exiting, and then you could tell they made them pull back over because the sunset, and they did on-the-fly interviews, which I had not seen in how how long? Ten years. Drew Tubi Sidora brought that up on Twitter. She was like, They're doing on the spot confessionals again. Look at that. Which game shell gave her that nickname? But I want to say I probably gave it to her first because I want to say, like, six episodes ago, I was calling her Drew Tubi. And you said, Well, what Tubi movie? Yes. So great job bringing those on the flies back. Loved that it was after the sunset, so you could tell that you made them pull over again to film those. And uh two good episodes. I liked Atlanta better this week. Oh, really? I was gonna say I liked Rhode Island. I liked the first 10 minutes of Rhode Island, but then it lost me. Yeah, but those 10 minutes were so good for me. I did rewind it, so it probably was like 30 minutes of viewing time instead of 10. What made me really sad. We got the mid-season trailer for Atlanta, which means we're already halfway done. But they did that to us with Rhode Island and didn't take it away. So I'm hoping that we don't have a break. True. I don't know. I'm scared about that too. Yeah, but Rhode Island's gonna end really soon. I know. There's only a few episodes left. That's crazy. I don't like it. I don't either. I can't believe. No offense, ladies. I'm like, Atlanta's gonna be our only girl to talk about. You better step it up, Drew Tubi. Come on, Drew Tubi, and you two in the background, Phaedra. I miss old Phaedra. Bring that poison ivy out. She she looked like poison ivy, but she wasn't acting like her, and I needed that attitude back. Well, I guess we'll see you next week, ladies. Yes, we'll see you next week. Thanks for stopping by and listening to us talk. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok. We're at friends of the show with a Z. I'm Kim X, that's Austin. Have a great rest of your week. Bye. Thank you. Goodbye.